Many people feel like 'we all have the same shot, and it's those who work hard that make it.'' Lentz continued. 'I do believe though that so much of our power structure in this country has been so 'white' that some people are literally SO unaware. 'When I was talking to Oprah, I was doing my best to make sure I would make as much sense as possible to those who don't get that 'term' necessarily and it's definitely not reserved for just white people!' 'Ultimately, I believe the root of racism, is sin!! Cut and dry,' Lentz told CP by email. Lentz explained that it is not just white people who are guilty of the ignorance responsible for the 'root of racism.' The Christian Post reached out to Lentz and asked him to clarify his remarks made during his interview with Winfrey. I have to be able to communicate how I feel without you attacking me.' Winfrey then suggested that part of the reason why very few racial conversations are happening between white, blacks and other ethnicities is because 'people immediately feel that you are accusing them of being a racist.' There is no conversations in our country.' At the table is where we find common ground. 'I think, again, that word conversation, which has been one of your gifts to our country, is that you will start a conversation.

'If it was just that one situation, it would demand a reckoning still, but it is not just that one,' Lentz continued. Lentz then added that he always tells people, 'Let's just say to the ignorant white person who says that it's not real and doesn't happen a lot, 'What if it was just this situation? Is it OK to have this conversation and give people a moment to freak out?' 'I understand that you are white and never known a black person or you know one or two and you are never in any other culture other than your own and you live this entitlement that you don't even know you are experiencing,' Winfrey said. 'Are you really trying to say that this isn't an issue?'Īfter African-American Walter Scott was killed by police in April 2015, Winfrey said she received an email from one of her white friends that stated, 'Maybe there is something to what you are saying.' 'White people can be so defensive about this subject,' Lentz added. Lentz continued by saying that he gets frustrated when 'people want to act like this isn't a conversation.' 'And, ignorance is a lack of information, which creates insecurity insecurity creates defensiveness, and defensiveness creates attack.'

Lentz, who proclaimed on Facebook in September that he and his megachurch won't be chanting 'All Lives Matter' because 'black lives apparently are worth less on our streets,' talked with Winfrey for over 40 minutes about faith, religion and Christ.īut one of the last questions that the 62-year-old African-American megastar asked the 31-year-old pastor was what he thinks 'the root of racism is.'

Hillsong NYC pastor Carl Lentz was recently interviewed by television star Oprah Winfrey on her SuperSoul Sunday talk show program and described what he believes is the 'root of racism' in America today. Carl Lentz presented at Passion Conference 2015.

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